Daniel Eleven and the King of the North

Sea "Between the sea and the glorious Holy mountain." Daniel 11:45.

What does prophecy mean when it says that the New World Order system will be planted "Between the sea and the glorious Holy mountain?" Daniel 11:45.

In Bible prophecy 'sea or waters' symbolize "people, nations and multitudes and tongues" Revelation 17:15. "The holy mountain" is the mountain of the Lord, the kingdom of God (see Daniel 2:35, 44).
It is from God's holy mountain that His ways are taught and His law goes forth (see Micah 4:2; Hebrews 12: 22,23) Symbols of the Remnant Church Prophetic Insights page 103, The Loud Cry page 153.

The king of the north - the papacy supported by (USA) having the support and strength of all earthly powers (see Daniel 11:40 - 42, Rev 17:12 -14) is seeking to establish himself upon this earth as a special leader among leaders, self elected judge of all nations Rev. 13:7, Prophetic Insights page 103.

We are considering the aims of the head of the Roman Catholic church who wants to establish himself as the "vicar of Christ" the ultimate court of judgement over the nations of the world. A religion and leader who would plant himself between the 'sea' (peoples nations and tongues) and the "glorious holy mountain" the government and authority of God. Daniel 2:35,44 Micah 4:2, Hebrews 12:22,23 Prophetic Insights page 103.

Rev. 13:2- Pagan Rome, the king of the north gave his kingdom and his power and great authority to Papal Rome, and now Papal Rome is the king of the North. The Loud Cry page 146, 1147.
We must understand this point well, in order to understand the last part of Daniel 11 and most of Revelation. We need to see how the prophecy changes from literal, and local events and places, to the present times. The Loud Cry page 147.
When the Jews rejected Christ, and their capital city, Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. The nation of Israel and Jerusalem, forever ceased to be the focus of biblical events and prophecy. The Christian Church is now the nation that took the place of ancient Israel. The Christian Church, after the destruction of ancient Jerusalem, is now called the city of God.

See Rev 11:2, Galatians 3:26,28,29, Romans 2:28, 29. Early Writings 75, 76. The Loud Cry page 116, 117. Matt 21:33-34, 23:37-38. Daniel 11:40 - Egypt, was the king of the south in the time of ancient Israel and was a godless nation. France was the nation represented by the king of south in 1798. Great Controversy 269. 'Enter into the glorious land'

Daniel 11:41 is the Roman Catholic church entering into the glorious land of America so richly blessed with religious freedom. Is papal Rome finally exerting a political and religious influence in the United States? This could break down the wall of separation between church and state, and lead to the overthrow of those principles in other countries fashioned after the USA. Prophetic Insights p51-53
"As the storm approaches a large class abandon their position and join the ranks of the enemy." GC 608.
It is when the state enters the domain of conscience, the realm of the church "the glorious land" of Daniel 11:41 "then oppressive enactment's will bring hardship, derision, and the threat of imprisonment, it is then the majority forsake us" 5T 136.

The prophecy of Daniel 11:41 will be fulfilled when the deadly wound is healed - when church and state combine to enforce religious dogmas, so that all the world "wonders after the Beast." Rev. 13:3.
It is then that the "king of the north enters into the glorious land" Daniel 11:41

"Edom and Moab and the chief of the children of Amon" are those who obey the commandments of God -the Remnant of His (God's) people those who have heeded Gods gathering message. Isa 11:11-14.
"Thus the inhabitants of the earth will be brought to take their stand, notwithstanding the agencies that combine against the truth, a large number take their stand upon the Lord's side." GC 612, 604, 606.

Daniel 11:42-43 "He - (the king of the north, the papacy) shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries and the land of Egypt (atheism communism) shall not escape."
"But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and silver, and over all precious things of Egypt and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps." Daniel 11:42-43.
All countries, including the United States, Russia, Japan, China and Israel and all religious beliefs, including Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and Judaism are symbolized by the countries mentioned here, all will either receive the seal of God or the Mark of the Beast. The Loud Cry p. 150.
"But tidings out of the East and out of the North shall trouble him..." Daniel 11: 44 (first part).
The "tidings that troubled him" is the Loud Cry of the third angel's message. Rev. 18:1-4, the Loud Cry page 151, GC 607
"Yet he shall come to his end and none shall help him" Daniel 11:45, last part.Daniel 12:1, Rev. 16:1, Rev 17:16, 18:7-10.
In a Word to the Little Flock, the old pioneer's belief including that of Ellen White is expressed:

"Michael is to stand up at the time that the last power in Daniel chapter 11 comes to his end, and none to help him."

Elder James White wrote in the Review and Herald an article on Daniel 11:45. Its purpose was to warn Uriah Smith that he was mistaken when he forecast the future of Turkey, believing it to be the king of the north of Daniel 11:45.

Nothing new under the sun At least part of the knowledge that will protect us as we approach these final hours in this earth's history is a knowledge of the past. The prophet Hosea declares:
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: and because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing that thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." Hosea 4:6 The bible in conjunction with the spirit of prophecy strongly councils us to understand our history because much of it will be repeated in particular the rise and the fall of the papacy.

"We have no time to lose. Troublous times are before us. The world is stirred with the spirit of war. Soon the scenes of trouble spoken of in the prophecies will take place. The prophecy in the eleventh chapter of Daniel has nearly reached its complete fulfillment. Much of the history that has taken place in fulfillment of this prophecy will be repeated. In the thirtieth verse a power is spoken of that 'shall be grieved.' [Daniel 11:30-36 quoted.] "Scenes similar to those described in these words will take place. We see evidence that Satan is fast obtaining the control of human minds who have not the fear of God before them. Let all read and understand the prophecies of this book, for we are now entering upon the time of trouble spoken of: [Daniel 12:1-4 quoted.]" Manuscript Releases, vol. 13, 394.

Sister White identifies the historical fulfilment of Daniel 11 as something which we should expect to see repeated as the "complete fulfilment" of Daniel 11 unfolds. She especially highlights Daniel 11:30-36.
The pioneers and Sister White understood that Daniel 11 was fulfilled from verse 1 through the first phrase of verse 40, which brings us up to 1798-"the time of the end." Therefore, when Sister White speaks of the complete fulfilment of Daniel 11, she is speaking of verses 40-45. Directing us to "scenes" and "history" which will be repeated, she isolates the history of these verses further by quoting Daniel 12:1-4. Sister White clearly recognized the standing up of Michael in Daniel 12:1 as being the close of probation. The complete fulfilment of verses 40-45 takes us from 1798 to the battle of Armageddon. During the events described in these verses, Michael stands up, closing His mediation work and human probation:

" 'And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.' Daniel 12:1. When this time of trouble comes, every case is decided; there is no longer probation, no longer mercy for the impenitent. The seal of the living God is upon His people. This small remnant, unable to defend themselves in the deadly conflict with the powers of earth that are marshalled by the dragon host, make God their defence. The decree has been passed by the highest earthly authority that they shall worship the beast and receive his mark under pain of persecution and death. May God help His people now, for what can they then do in such a fearful conflict without His assistance!" Testimonies, vol. 5, 212-213.

close of probation we should expect to see repeated "scenes similar" and "much of the history" prophesied to take place in Daniel 11, especially the scenes and history associated with Daniel 11:30-36. In this chapter we will briefly review the historical fulfilment of Daniel 11 as much of what took place during this time period will be repeated.

The vision of Daniel 11 begins with the kingdom of Medo-Persia being defeated by Alexander the Great. In verse four we see Alexander's kingdom divided into four parts for his four generals. From verse 5 onward, only two of his generals are mentioned. These two kings were Seleucus and Ptolemy. Their interaction begins a story of the ongoing struggle for world dominion recorded throughout the rest of Daniel 11. This power struggle is prophetically portrayed as the battle between the kings of the north and the king of the south.

One important point of this story is how the Scriptures identify the kings of the north and south. By comparing recorded history with the testimony of Daniel 11, historians and pioneers discovered that the king of the north was the kingdom which controlled the geographical area of Babylon. They discovered also that the king of the south was the kingdom which controlled the geographical area of Egypt. This principle in Daniel 11 brings together the testimony of Scripture with the record of history. This geographical key is the rule which we will apply to Daniel 11:40-45 as we begin to identify who are the kings of the north and south. This historical truth is, no doubt, one of the clues, which the Spirit of Prophecy intended to direct us to at the time when this prophecy was to come to its "complete fulfilment."

Through the first 13 verses, we find the ebb and flow of history described, as different kingdoms rose and fell. In verse 14, we see the primary subject of all Daniel 11 identified for the first time in the vision by the phrase, "robbers of thy people." This verse states that these "robbers," will "establish the vision." Uriah Smith addresses this phrase in verse 14 with the following observation:

" 'To establish the vision.' The Romans more than any other people are the subject of Daniel's prophecy. Their first interference in the affairs of these kingdoms is here referred to as being the establishment, or demonstration, of the truth of the vision which predicted the existence of such a power." Daniel and the Revelation, 244.

From this point on, the vision portrays the history of either pagan or papal Rome. In verse 20 we find pagan Rome summons Joseph to pay taxes in Bethlehem. In verse 22 pagan Rome breaks "the prince of the covenant," by crucifying Christ.

In verse 24 we see pagan Rome's time of dominion set forth within a biblical time prophecy. The last phrase of this verse sets forth 360 years as the time when pagan Rome would rule the world by the words, "even for a time." Uriah Smith concurs with other pioneers and historians on the starting and ending point for this time prophecy:

"The battle was fought September 2, 31 B.C., at the mouth of the gulf of Ambracia, near the city of Actium. The world was at stake. . . . This battle doubtless marks the beginning of the 'time' mentioned in verse 24. As during this 'time,' devices were to be forecast from the stronghold, or Rome, we should conclude that at the end of that period western supremacy would cease, or such a change would take place in the empire that that city would no longer be considered the seat of government. From 31 B.C., a prophetic 'time,' or 360 years, would bring us to A.D. 330. Hence it becomes a noteworthy fact that the seat of empire was removed from Rome to Constantinople by Constantine the Great in that very year."
Daniel and the Revelation., 262-264; see also Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Vol. VII, 3, art., "Constantinople."

Pagan Rome's 360 years to rule the world had its counterpart with papal Rome's 1260-year time prophecy. More important to our study, is that the dominance of pagan Rome comes to its end just as the verses especially highlighted by Sister White begin. Verses 30-36 deal with the history covering the transition from pagan to papal Rome. We will find that the scenes and events within that transition period, parallel the sequence of events found in verses 40-45. As we begin to look at verses 30-36, we again refer to Uriah Smith as he addresses Daniel 11:29:

"The time appointed is probably the prophetic time of verse 24, which has been previously mentioned. It closed, as already shown, in A.D. 330. . . . The removal of the seat of empire to Constantinople was the signal for the downfall of the empire. Rome then lost its prestige...."

Continuing, but now dealing with verse 30:
"For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

Daniel 11:30

"What were the ships of Chittim that came against this power, and when was this movement made? It was Carthage. See quote below:

"Was a naval warfare with Carthage as a base of operations ever waged against the Roman Empire? We think of the terrible onslaught of the Vandals upon Rome under the fierce Genseric, and answer easily in the affirmative." Ibid., 266-267.

Using Daniel 11:30-36 as a historical outline identified by the Spirit of Prophecy, we note that this past history was a transition time for Rome. Pagan Rome was about to leave the scene of action as the ruler of the earth, and Papal Rome was about to step into the vacuum. Daniel 7:24 addresses this very same transition:

"And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings."

In Daniel 7:23-24 we find that after the "fourth kingdom" arises, "another shall arise." This is a description of the fall of pagan Rome and then the rise of papal Rome. In the prophecy of Daniel 7 we see that this fifth king "shall subdue three kings," as he ascends to power. Genseric, king of the Vandals, was one of those three kings.

As papal Rome rises to power, it first has to form an alliance in order to uproot three horns, or three kingdoms, to prepare the way. This was in itself a repetition of history, for as pagan Rome came into control of the world, it first had to form an alliance with the Jews in 161 B.C., (See Daniel and the Revelation p258) and then conquer three geographical areas. In Daniel 8:9 we see the "little horn," symbolizing pagan Rome waxing "toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land," thus illustrating the directions of conquest taken as Rome brought the world under its control. We especially note this history, for the king of the north in Daniel 11:40-45 would also subdue three entities, before he took control of the world.

Daniel 11:30-36 describes pagan Rome wanting in power. When threatened by other powers in the past, Rome prevailed. Not so at this time. As Rome went out to do battle it was "grieved"-by its inability to prevail. At this time period the "three horns," which were waging war against pagan Rome, were also waging a theological war against Catholicism.

The Heruli, the Goths, and the Vandals, symbolized by the three horns, embraced the Arian faith. During this time period Justinian declared the bishop of Rome to be the head of the church, and the corrector of heretics, in an attempt to restrain the Arian faith from dominating Catholic doctrines. Justinian's efforts to uphold Catholic doctrines against the Arian onslaught opened the door for the Catholic Church to restrict certain books which threatened their manmade doctrines. This restriction included the Bible, for they began to teach that only the church fathers could safely read it. This attack against the Bible was "the indignation against the holy covenant," and the appointment of the bishop of Rome to the head of the church was the "intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant," of verse 30.

Past History repeated

Verse 31 records that "arms shall stand on his part." As history and prophecy move forward to the next step in the sequence to set papal Rome on the throne of the world, we find that Clovis, the king of France, dedicated his sword and his country to the Papacy. France became the first Catholic nation, the first of seven kingdoms found in Europe to renounce their pagan beliefs and embrace Catholicism, and also the first to submit the nation to the service of the Papacy. This alliance provided the ways and means to defeat the three Arian horns. Prophecy taught that these three horns would be removed before the Papacy assumed authority over the world.

Not only did Clovis and the other horns of Europe bring their finances and arms to bear against the three horns, they also seized (took away) their pagan resistance against Catholicism. This fact is illustrated as they "take away the daily." Speaking of the "daily," Ellen White states:

"Then I saw in relation to the 'daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word 'sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the 'daily,' but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed." Early Writings, 74-75.
The pioneers viewed the "daily," as symbolizing the attack against God's truth through the forces of paganism. William Miller, Uriah Smith and Josiah Linch describe their understanding below.



Miller

WILLIAM MILLER:

"I read on, and could find no other case in which it [the daily] was found but in Daniel. I then [by the aid of an concordance] took those word which stood in connection with it, 'take away;' he shall take away the daily; 'from the time that the daily shall be taken away' I read on and thought I would find no light on the text. Finally I came to 2Thessalonians 2:7-8, 'For the mystery of iniquity does already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way, and then shall that wicked be revealed.' And when I had come to that text, O how clear and glorious the truth appeared. There it is! That is the daily! Well, now, what does Paul mean by 'he who now letteth' or hindereth? By 'the man of sin,' and 'the wicked,' Popery is meant. Well what is it that hinders Popery from being revealed? Why it is Paganism. Well, then, 'the daily' must mean paganism." Review and Herald, January, 1858. Miller - Wikipedia



Smith

URIAH SMITH:

The word sacrifice "should be 'desolation.' The expression denotes a desolating power, of which the abomination of desolation is but the counterpart, and to which it succeeds in point of time. It seems clear therefore that the 'daily' desolation was paganism, and the 'abomination of desolation' is the Papacy. . . . In the ninth chapter, Daniel speaks of desolations and abominations in the plural. More than one abomination, therefore, treads down the church; that is, as far as the church is concerned, both paganism and the Papacy are abominations. But as distinguished from each other, the language is restricted. One is the 'daily' desolation, and the other is pre-eminently the transgression or 'abomination' of desolation. "How was the 'daily', or paganism, taken away? . . . The conversion of Clovis [A.D. 496] is said to have been the occasion of bestowing upon the French monarch the titles 'Most Christian Majesty' and 'Eldest Son of the Church.' Between that time and A.D. 508, [the other horns of Europe] were brought into subjection. "From . . . A.D. 508, the Papacy was triumphant so far as paganism was concerned, . . . When the prominent powers of Europe gave up their attachment to paganism, it was only to perpetuate its abominations in another form; for Christianity as exhibited in the Roman Catholic Church was, and is, only paganism baptized." Daniel and the Revelation, 270-272. Smith - Wikipedia



Litch

JOSIAH LITCH:

"The daily sacrifice is the present reading of the text; but no such thing as sacrifice is found in the original. This is acknowledged on all hands. It is a gloss or construction put upon it by the translators. The true reading is, 'the daily and the transgression of desolation;' daily and transgression being connected together by 'and;' the daily and the transgression of desolation. They are two desolating powers which were to desolate the Sanctuary and the host." Review and Herald, January, 1858. Litch - Wikipedia



Papism The history of Daniel 11:31 is a description of the pagan powers of Europe coming to the aid of the Papacy to set it upon the throne of the world. The removing of the "daily," and the polluting of the "sanctuary of strength," is a description of their turning from open paganism, which previously was their confessed religion biblically symbolized as their "sanctuary of strength." The words "take away" carry a two-fold meaning as they not only teach a removal, but also a secondary definition conveys the idea of-lifting up. When paganism was set aside by the powers of Europe, through their submission to Catholicism, paganism was actually lifted up, for Catholicism is the greatest manifestation of paganism - though clothed in the garb of Christianity.

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Speaking of the transition of Pagan Rome to Papal Rome, Ellen White writes:

"In the twelfth chapter of revelation we have as a symbol a great red dragon. in the ninth verse of that chapter this symbol is explained as follows: "and the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." undoubtedly the dragon primarily represents Satan. But Satan does not appear upon the earth in person; he works through agents. It was in the person of wicked men that he sought to destroy Jesus as soon as he was born. Wherever Satan has been able to control a government so fully that it would carry out his designs, that nation became, for the time, Satan's representative. This was the case with all the great heathen nations. For instance, see Ezekiel 28, where Satan is represented as actual king of Tyre. This was because he fully controlled that government. in the first centuries of the Christian era, Rome, of all the pagan nations, was Satan's chief agent in opposing the gospel, and was therefore represented by the dragon.
But there came a time when paganism in the Roman Empire fell before the advancing form of Christianity. Then, as is stated on page 54, "paganism had given place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the beast 'his power, and his seat, and great authority.'" that is, Satan then began to work through the papacy, just as he had formerly worked through paganism. But the papacy is not represented by the dragon, because it is necessary to introduce another symbol in order to show the change in the form of the opposition to God. Previous to the rise of the papacy, all opposition to the law of God had been in the form of paganism,-- God had been openly defied; but from that time the opposition was carried on under the guise of professed allegiance to him. The papacy, however, was no less the instrument of Satan than was pagan Rome; for all the power, the seat, and the great authority of the papacy, were given it by the dragon. And so, although the pope professes to be the vicegerent of Christ, he is, in reality, the vicegerent of Satan--he is antichrist.
{Great Controversy 1888 p680.1}

In this time period, we see the seed of the serpent forming another phase in history. The first persecuting power was open alliance against the Levitical system of worship which was God's word instructed to Moses on the mount. It was also described as the daily or continuance (see Numbers 29:6, 4:16) as it comes from the same Hebrew word 'Tamid' which is the same word used in the book of Daniel when discussing the daily in relation to paganism. Just as Christ taketh away the first to establish the second, Satan also takes away his first system of worship (pagan Rome) to make way for the second abomination that maketh desolate. (Papal Rome). This is the second persecuting power against the seed of the woman which is paganism baptised into Christianity.

Continuing on in Daniel 11: 32-35 we see the persecution of the Dark Ages illustrated, with the final phrase of verse 35 pointing to the end of the 1260 years with the words, "even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed." This phrase takes us up to verse 40. But before Daniel gets to verse forty, verses 36-39, present the description of the main subject of Daniel which is the Papacy:

"And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done." Daniel 11:36.

This is clearly the Papacy, and Paul paraphrases this passage in his most potent statement of the Papacy:

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.